{"id":40874,"date":"2026-05-08T05:27:09","date_gmt":"2026-05-08T03:27:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/no-venue-level-risk-data-exists-in-the-2b-ticket-insurance-market-gap-were-trying-to-document\/"},"modified":"2026-05-08T05:27:09","modified_gmt":"2026-05-08T03:27:09","slug":"no-venue-level-risk-data-exists-in-the-2b-ticket-insurance-market-gap-were-trying-to-document","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/no-venue-level-risk-data-exists-in-the-2b-ticket-insurance-market-gap-were-trying-to-document\/","title":{"rendered":"No Venue-level Risk Data Exists In The $2B Ticket Insurance Market \u2014 Gap We&#8217;re Trying To Document"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- SC_OFF --><\/p>\n<div class=\"md\">\n<p>Disclosure: I run the Live Events Standards Council, which is working on this problem. Sharing because the data gap itself is genuinely interesting and I&#8217;d love input from people who work in this space.<\/p>\n<p>Something I haven&#8217;t seen discussed anywhere:<\/p>\n<p>The US ticket refund insurance market is $2.01 billion annually. 13.6% CAGR projected through 2035. Every single policy in this market is currently priced as if every venue carries identical risk \u2014 because there is literally no venue-level risk data in existence anywhere.<\/p>\n<p>No public chargeback rates by venue. No cancellation frequency by platform. No loss ratio transparency by ticketing provider. The FTC documented a ~10% chargeback rate in high-fraud ticketing contexts versus 0.6-1% e-commerce baseline \u2014 but that data isn&#8217;t broken down by venue, platform, or event type. Every underwriter is flying completely blind on risk differentiation.<\/p>\n<p>This matters now because the DOJ-Live Nation settlement just opened a newly competitive market with 14,700+ independent venues and 15+ competing ticketing platforms \u2014 none of which have any certification, compliance data, or way for insurers to differentiate between them.<\/p>\n<p>Analogous markets that built certification infrastructure \u2014 restaurant health grades, IIHS auto safety ratings, LEED building certification \u2014 documented 13-55% reductions in adverse events once a public quality signal existed. The mechanism is consistent: visible certification changes consumer selection behavior and gives operators incentive to comply.<\/p>\n<p>We filed a public-interest submission in the Live Nation federal remedies proceeding making the actuarial case for why venue-level certification matters: <a href=\"https:\/\/liveeventscouncil.org\/LESC-court-filing\/\">https:\/\/liveeventscouncil.org\/LESC-court-filing\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If anyone here works in insurance data, actuarial modeling, or regulatory datasets in adjacent industries \u2014 genuinely would love input on methodology for building the first venue-level risk dataset in this market. Open research volunteer role if anyone&#8217;s interested.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- SC_ON -->   submitted by   <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/user\/Thatgirltorie\"> \/u\/Thatgirltorie <\/a> <br \/> <span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/datasets\/comments\/1t6vst8\/no_venuelevel_risk_data_exists_in_the_2b_ticket\/\">[link]<\/a><\/span>   <span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/datasets\/comments\/1t6vst8\/no_venuelevel_risk_data_exists_in_the_2b_ticket\/\">[comments]<\/a><\/span><\/p><div class='watch-action'><div class='watch-position align-right'><div class='action-like'><a class='lbg-style1 like-40874 jlk' href='javascript:void(0)' data-task='like' data-post_id='40874' data-nonce='65e0e39b87' rel='nofollow'><img class='wti-pixel' src='https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-content\/plugins\/wti-like-post\/images\/pixel.gif' title='Like' \/><span class='lc-40874 lc'>0<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div> <div class='status-40874 status align-right'><\/div><\/div><div class='wti-clear'><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Disclosure: I run the Live Events Standards Council, which is working on this problem. Sharing because the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[85],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40874","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-datatards","wpcat-85-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40874","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40874"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40874\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40874"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40874"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40874"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}