{"id":14144,"date":"2023-03-21T03:02:05","date_gmt":"2023-03-21T02:02:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/some-analysis-of-the-tacoma-narrows-bridge-by-dino\/"},"modified":"2023-03-21T03:02:05","modified_gmt":"2023-03-21T02:02:05","slug":"some-analysis-of-the-tacoma-narrows-bridge-by-dino","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/some-analysis-of-the-tacoma-narrows-bridge-by-dino\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Analysis Of The Tacoma Narrows Bridge, By Dino"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From: dino@euclid.colorado.edu (dino)<br \/>\nNewsgroups: alt.folklore.urban<br \/>\nSubject: The Tacoma Narrows<br \/>\nDate: 28 Mar 1995 01:34:40 GMT<br \/>\nOrganization: University of Colorado, Boulder<br \/>\nLines: 200<br \/>\nMessage-ID:<br \/>\nReferences:<br \/>\nNNTP-Posting-Host: euclid.colorado.edu<\/p>\n<p>Collapsing bridges seem popular on AFU these days. We have&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>branden@hillres22.cc.purdue.edu (Crash) writes:<br \/>\n&gt;Queenie (JSM158@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:<\/p>\n<p>&gt;: everything has a characteristic frequency at which it vibrates. When<br \/>\n&gt;: sound waves at that frequency are directed at the object, the waves<br \/>\n&gt;: merge with the vibrations of the object, intensifying them until the<br \/>\n&gt;: object is ripped apart &#8211; the principle used by singers to shatter<\/p>\n<p>&gt;Yep, that&#8217;s the 1940 Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse in Washington state.<br \/>\n&gt;Standard fare for freshman-year mechanics courses at reputable science and<br \/>\n&gt;engineering-oriented colleges and universities.  And your description is<br \/>\n&gt;pretty acuurate regarding the phenomena involved.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>No it isn&#8217;t. But I had wanted to knock this one off for a long time, and<br \/>\nyou gave me the opportunity, so don&#8217;t feel like I am flaming you.<\/p>\n<p>The following is abstracted from an article in _The American Journal of<br \/>\nPhysics_, 59 (2), February 1991, pp 118 &#8212; 124; the title of the article is:<\/p>\n<p>  Resonance, Tacoma Narrows bridge failure, and undergraduate physics<br \/>\n  textbooks<\/p>\n<p>From the article&#8217;s abstract (*&#8217;s frame things in italics, all pytos mine):<\/p>\n<p>  The Tacoma Narrows bridge disaster of 1940 is still very much in the public<br \/>\n  eye today. Notably, in many undergraduate physics texts the disaster is<br \/>\n  presented as an example of *forced resonance* of a mechanical oscillator,<br \/>\n  with the wind providing an external periodic frequency that matched the<br \/>\n  natural structural frequency. This oversimplified explanation has existed<br \/>\n  in numerous texts for a long time and continues this day, with even more<br \/>\n  detailed presentations in some new and updated texts. Engineers on the other<br \/>\n  hand, have studied the phenomenon over the past half-century, and their<br \/>\n  current understanding differs fundamentally from the viewpoint expressed<br \/>\n  in most physics texts.  In the present article the engineers viewpoint is<br \/>\n  expressed to the physics community &#8230; substantial disagreement exists.<br \/>\n  &#8230; one misleading identification of forced resonance arises from the<br \/>\n  notion that the periodic natural vortex shedding of wind over the structure<br \/>\n  was the source of the damaging external excitation. It is then demostrated<br \/>\n  that the ultimate failure of the bridge was in fact related to an<br \/>\n  aerodynamically induced condition of *self excitation* or &#8220;negative damping&#8221;<br \/>\n  in a torsional degree of freedom. The aeroelastic phenomenon involved was<br \/>\n  an *interactive* one in which developed wind forces were strongly linked<br \/>\n  to structural motion. This paper emphasizes &#8230; physically as well as<br \/>\n  mathematically, *forced resonance* and *self-excitation* [my note: no<br \/>\n  masturbation follow-ups, please] are fundamentally different phenomena.<br \/>\n  The article closes with a quantitative assesment of the Tacoma Narrows<br \/>\n  phenomenon that is in full agreement with the documented action of the<br \/>\n  bridge itself in its final moments and a full, dynamically scaled model<br \/>\n  of it studied in the 1950s.<\/p>\n<p>(end of abstract)<\/p>\n<p>Some comments from the article: <\/p>\n<p>  &#8230; Its failure  on November 7, 1940 attracted wide attention at the time<br \/>\n  and has elicited recurring references ever since, notably in undergraduate<br \/>\n  physics textbooks. &#8230; The main issues in this instance are: What was the<br \/>\n  exact nature of the wind-driven occurrences at Tacoma Narrows, and can they<br \/>\n  be considered correctly to be cases of resonance? <\/p>\n<p>  These invoke inferences about the Tacoma Narrows episode that differ<br \/>\n  from present engineering understanding of the failure. However, we also<br \/>\n  point out below, areas of at least partial agreement. Our aim is to set the<br \/>\n  record a bit straighter than it now appears to be &#8212; at least as popularly<br \/>\n  understood.<\/p>\n<p>  II. TEXTBOOK ACCOUNT<\/p>\n<p>  Typically, *resonance* is first presented qualitatively along these lines:<\/p>\n<p>   In general, whenever a system capable of oscillation is acted upon by<br \/>\n   a periodic series of impulses have frequency equal to one of the natural<br \/>\n   requencies of the system, the system is set into oscillations of<br \/>\n   relatively large magnitude.<\/p>\n<p>The article further comments on why the TN bridge episode was described as<br \/>\nresonance, commenting on popular accounts in physics textbooks, in which<br \/>\nthe central span of the bridge resonated (now assumed) until said resonance<br \/>\nbecame so great that it collapsed, and how the wind blowing over the surface<br \/>\nand support cables of the TN bridge generated very large wave disturbances<br \/>\nthat destroyed the unfortunate bridge.<\/p>\n<p>The article continues:<\/p>\n<p>  The final, catastrophic event at  Tacoma Narrows did, in fact, fit part of<br \/>\n  the above qualitative defintition of resonance &#8212; as we shall discuss &#8212;<br \/>\n  *if* the more penetrating question of where the &#8220;periodic series of<br \/>\n  impulses&#8221; came from is temporarily set aside, for it was indeed a single<br \/>\n  torsional mode of the bridge that wa driven to destructive amplitude by the<br \/>\n  wind, as will be discussed at a later point.<\/p>\n<p>The article further comments that after this is told to physics students,<br \/>\nan explanation follows, to effect, <\/p>\n<p>    &#8220;The wind produced a fluctuating resultant froce in resonance with a<br \/>\n    natural frequency of the structure. This caused a steady increase in<br \/>\n    amplitude until the bridge was destroyed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The article basically says that this is BS and too simple minded, that<br \/>\nphysics texts are vague about &#8220;just what the exciting force was&#8221; and this<br \/>\nresulted in the necessary periodicity. Texts will say it was due to &#8220;gale<br \/>\nwinds,&#8221; or &#8220;gusts of wind,&#8221; et cetera. However, such do not have well-defined<br \/>\nperiodicity. Further:<\/p>\n<p>  Seeking such periodicity must lead to closer investigation of the<br \/>\n  aerodynamics of bluff bodies &#8230; The so-called *periodic vortex shedding&#8221;<br \/>\n  effect is a first, very tempting, candidate to which to attribute the<br \/>\n  necessary periodicity.<\/p>\n<p>  Bluff bodies (such as bridge decks) in fluid streams do in fact shed<br \/>\n  periodic vortex wakes, tripped off by body shape and viscosity, &#8230;<br \/>\n  which oscillate in consequence. &#8230; Unfortunately, this explanation is<br \/>\n  incorrect. We now know that this is *not* what occurred at Tacoma Narrows.<\/p>\n<p>The article follows with a section on &#8220;Vortex-Induced Vibration,&#8221; which<br \/>\ndeals with bluff (non-streamlined) bodies with flow over them and how said<br \/>\nflow doesn&#8217;t follow the contours of the body, breaking away at some points.<br \/>\nIn short, the article discards this as a cause of the TN&#8217;s collapse, saying:<\/p>\n<p>  It has been now long since demonstarted that from the standpoint of<br \/>\n  phenomenology, even such vortex-induced oscillations do not constitute a<br \/>\n  case of simple resonance. &#8230; Vortex-induced vibration is clearly not a<br \/>\n  linear resonance even if the structure itself has linear properties, since<br \/>\n  the exciting force amplitude *F* is a nonlinear function of the system<br \/>\n  response.<\/p>\n<p>  IV. THE DESTRUCTIVE MECHANISM AT THE TACOMA NARROWS<\/p>\n<p>  &#8230; took place under a wholly different &#8212; and catastrophic &#8212; set of<br \/>\n  circumstances. The wind speed at the time&#8230; was 42 mph, and the frequency<br \/>\n  he observed for the final destructive oscillation was 12c\/m or 0.2 Hz. At<br \/>\n  42 mph, the natural frequency of vortex shedding &#8230; be close to 1 Hz,<br \/>\n  wholly *out of sync* with the actual&#8230; It can be concluded that natural<br \/>\n  vortex shedding was *not* the cause of the collapse. This rules out one type<br \/>\n  of periodic exciting force implied by a few of our references.<\/p>\n<p>(comments on how engineers want to design bridges that won&#8217;t collapse in the<br \/>\n wind deleted)<\/p>\n<p>The article further comments on how the destruction was duplicated in a scale<br \/>\nmodel bridge built by one Scruton. The physics starts to get involved, and<br \/>\nthey conclude that the collapse was due to &#8220;single-degree-of-freedom torsional<br \/>\nflutter&#8221; due to &#8220;complex, separated flow.&#8221; In short, the article does conclude:<\/p>\n<p>  &#8230; if we now identify the source of the periodic impulses as *self-induced*,<br \/>\n  the wind supplying the power, and the motion supplying the power-tapping<br \/>\n  mechanism. If one wishes to argue, however, that it was a case of<br \/>\n  *externally forced linear resonance*, the mathematical distinction between<br \/>\n  Eqs. (1) and (3) is quite clear, self-exciting [my note: again, no follow-ups<br \/>\n  about masturbation] systems differing strongly from ordinary linear<br \/>\n  resonant ones. The texts that we have consulted have not gone this far in<br \/>\n  explanation.<\/p>\n<p>It also comments:<\/p>\n<p>  We note that numerous instructional texts in mathematics [68-76] allude<br \/>\n  to the Tacoma Narrows incident, and most of these, too, could be made<br \/>\n  more precise and insightful in the light of the current analysis of the<br \/>\n  problem.<\/p>\n<p>They even have some borderline UL-related comments in Closing Remarks:<\/p>\n<p>  The Tacoma Narrows incident will remain a celebrated example because of<br \/>\n  its spectacular nature and the freak recording of this disaster by<br \/>\n  witnessing photographers. The sensational photographs have made it into<br \/>\n  an irresistable pedagogical example &#8212; and indeed, much is to be learned<br \/>\n  from it. Because it lodges itself so in the memory, it is doubly important<br \/>\n  for educators to draw correct lessons from this classic and sensational<br \/>\n  event. While it is understandable how so many textbooks have, over the<br \/>\n  years, oversimplified the physics involved, it is probably time &#8212; given<br \/>\n  the advanced state of the knowledge &#8212; to offer the next generation<br \/>\n  of subtler, more complex, and *correct* explanations.<\/p>\n<p>OK, I am a math geek, not a physics geek, and glossed over most of the<br \/>\nphysics myself. However&#8230; we may conclude (and a search of the FAQ and<br \/>\ncathouse revealed nothing):<\/p>\n<p>F. The Tacoma Narrows bridge collapsed due to simple resonance.<\/p>\n<p>T. It wasn&#8217;t so simple.<\/p>\n<p>dino &#8220;will destroy bridges for food&#8221; m.<\/p>\n<div class='watch-action'><div class='watch-position align-right'><div class='action-like'><a class='lbg-style1 like-14144 jlk' href='javascript:void(0)' data-task='like' data-post_id='14144' data-nonce='9941108d62' rel='nofollow'><img class='wti-pixel' src='https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-content\/plugins\/wti-like-post\/images\/pixel.gif' title='Like' \/><span class='lc-14144 lc'>0<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div> <div class='status-14144 status align-right'><\/div><\/div><div class='wti-clear'><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From: dino@euclid.colorado.edu (dino) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban Subject: The Tacoma Narrows Date: 28 Mar 1995 01:34:40 GMT Organization: University&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[27],"class_list":["post-14144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-othernonsense","tag-english","wpcat-7-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14144"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14144\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14145,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14144\/revisions\/14145"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}