{"id":14054,"date":"2023-03-21T02:51:43","date_gmt":"2023-03-21T01:51:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/buying-a-car-or-truck-through-repossesion-auctions-by-paul-dewey\/"},"modified":"2023-03-21T02:51:43","modified_gmt":"2023-03-21T01:51:43","slug":"buying-a-car-or-truck-through-repossesion-auctions-by-paul-dewey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/buying-a-car-or-truck-through-repossesion-auctions-by-paul-dewey\/","title":{"rendered":"Buying A Car Or Truck Through Repossesion Auctions By Paul Dewey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>        BUYING A CAR OR TRUCK THROUGH REPOSSESSION AUCTIONS<br \/>\n                        By Paul Dewey<\/p>\n<p>So you are looking for a car or truck, but you&#8217;re tired of running around<br \/>\n town and finding other people selling their &#8220;headaches&#8221; through the local<br \/>\n classifieds, or dealers offering &#8220;cream-puffs&#8221; for inflated retail prices.<br \/>\nAll you want is a good vehicle for a good price.   Period.   Does such a deal<br \/>\n exist?   Yes, indeed!   Repossession auctions are becoming more and more<br \/>\n popular across the country.   I have been attending them for over 20 years,<br \/>\n and have purchased many cars and trucks at bargain prices &#8211; everything from<br \/>\n a brand new car (still with the window sticker on it and 3 miles on the<br \/>\n odometer) for $1,100 below the sticker price, to a conversion van with<br \/>\n 99,000 miles on it.   Both of these vehicles are still in the family and<br \/>\n running strong.<br \/>\nWhat I&#8217;d like to do here is share my experiences with you, and give you some<br \/>\n tips on how you, too, can find these bargains.<br \/>\nFirst of all, how do you find the auctions?   Your local paper is a good place<br \/>\n to start.   Many banks and other financial institutions (such as GMAC) list<br \/>\n the times and places of their auctions in Sunday papers under &#8220;Auctions&#8221; or<br \/>\n &#8220;Cars for Sale&#8221;.   Also, if there is a &#8220;legal publication&#8221; in your area, that<br \/>\n publishes court proceedings, bankruptcy notices, etc., this is another<br \/>\n source for repossession auto auction notifications.   One other way to find<br \/>\n them is to call your local banks and ask for the Installment Loan<br \/>\n Department.   They should be able to provide you with details on their<br \/>\n particular auctions.   Many even have regular mailing lists, where they will<br \/>\n automatically send you a notification of their auction and even a listing of<br \/>\n what vehicles will be included.   While some institutions restrict their<br \/>\n auctions to dealers only, most will allow the public to attend and bid.<br \/>\nOnce you have found an auction, be sure to get all the details BEFORE you go.<br \/>\n   You&#8217;ll need to know if there are any minimum bid requirements, what type of<br \/>\n payment they need, and what type of paperwork they provide to the<br \/>\n purchasers.   Many auctions will sell everything to the highest bidder, no<br \/>\n matter how low the bid is.   Still others may have a minimum bid they must<br \/>\n get, or they &#8220;buy back&#8221; the car and save it for the next auction.   Most<br \/>\n institutions retain the right to bid, so be aware that you may be not only<br \/>\n be bidding against other people interested in the vehicle, but also against<br \/>\n the auctioneer!<br \/>\nWhile most auctions will publish their requirements for payment along with<br \/>\n the auction notification, DON&#8217;T assume that that&#8217;s all there is to it.   Find<br \/>\n out if they expect cash only, certified checks or personal checks.   Also,<br \/>\n many require full payment immediately after the sale, while others may<br \/>\n require a non-refundable deposit with the balance due in a few days.   All<br \/>\n too often I have seen people make costly errors at auctions because they<br \/>\n didn&#8217;t understand these payment rules.<br \/>\nIn this day and age of red tape, titles, liens, etc., the paperwork an<br \/>\n institution provides is as important as anything else.   In New York State,<br \/>\n for example, if the institution sells the vehicle with &#8220;as-is&#8221; marked on the<br \/>\n bill of sale, you may encounter a legal nightmare that involves a major<br \/>\n full-vehicle inspection and an 8 to 10 week wait for a title search and<br \/>\n registration procedure that will prevent you from putting the vehicle on the<br \/>\n road for months.   It is imperative, therefore, that you find out<br \/>\n specifically what paperwork the institution will give you when you purchase<br \/>\n a vehicle through their auction.   If you plan on registering the car right<br \/>\n away, tell them that and make sure you are satisfied that they will give you<br \/>\n what you need.   If in doubt, contact your local Motor Vehicle office ahead<br \/>\n of time to insure that you&#8217;ll be able to proceed with what the institution<br \/>\n will be giving you.   Laws vary dramatically from state to state.<br \/>\nAbove all, make sure that all liens have been satisfied before you purchase a<br \/>\n repossessed vehicle.   Most banks and financial institutions will give you<br \/>\n some type of form to verify this.<br \/>\nOK&#8230; now you&#8217;ve found the auction and understand the rules and requirements.<br \/>\n   The next step is finding the vehicle that fits your needs.   In order to<br \/>\n know what the vehicle&#8217;s value is before you bid on it, you&#8217;ll need a good<br \/>\n resource of wholesale and retail pricing.   One good source is the NADA &#8220;Blue<br \/>\n Book&#8221;.   This book lists cars and light trucks by manufacturer and body<br \/>\n style, giving you the current average wholesale and retail for each.   I have<br \/>\n used a book called &#8220;Edmund&#8217;s Used Car Prices&#8221; for the past 15 years or so,<br \/>\n and found them to be a very reliable source.   Like the NADA book, it lists<br \/>\n the cars and light trucks by manufacturer and year (usually the past 7 model<br \/>\n years), and provides the vehicle&#8217;s original list price, current average<br \/>\n wholesale and retail.   It also provides you with a list of popular options,<br \/>\n and what they add to the value of the car or truck.   There&#8217;s plenty of<br \/>\n details in the book which I won&#8217;t go into here.   Just make sure you read the<br \/>\n &#8220;How to Use This Book&#8221; section thoroughly before you start using it.<br \/>\n Options such as air conditioning, power steering and brakes and type of<br \/>\n transmission may dramatically affect the value of the vehicle.   Also,<br \/>\n excessive mileage for that particular year car or truck will affect the<br \/>\n value.   So, read the book and know how to use it BEFORE you get to the<br \/>\n auction.<br \/>\nThe next step will be to get an up-close look at the vehicles.   You may find<br \/>\n a car listed in the paper that is just what you want, only to get there and<br \/>\n find out it&#8217;s missing a couple of wheels, or the front bumper has been<br \/>\n pushed back a few feet!   Unless you know a good mechanic, or have your own<br \/>\n shop and tools, walk away from these damaged cars!   Find out when the first<br \/>\n available times are for inspection before the sale, then get there early to<br \/>\n give you time to look things over.<br \/>\nYou&#8217;ll find the best way to buy at an auction is to not be too specific as<br \/>\n far as what you want.   If you think you want a Chevy Celebrity, for example,<br \/>\n take the time to look at the Pontiac 6000s, Olds Cieras and Buick Centurys.<br \/>\n    If you want a 2 door, don&#8217;t overlook the same type of car in a 4 door<br \/>\n model.   The more limited your preferences, the less chance you have of<br \/>\n getting a &#8220;real bargain&#8221;.   Actually, the best way to &#8220;shop&#8221; an auction is to<br \/>\n first eliminate all the vehicles that you&#8217;re NOT interested in.   Then you<br \/>\n can spend your time looking over the others.<br \/>\nOnce you have determined which ones interest you, take a close look at each<br \/>\n to make sure you have the correct information as to make, model, year,<br \/>\n options, etc., and calculate the book wholesale and retail.   If the<br \/>\n institution provides you with a printed list of the vehicles, make notes<br \/>\n about it and write down the prices &#8211; don&#8217;t rely on your memory.   When the<br \/>\n bidding starts, you want to have all the information written down in front<br \/>\n of you so you know exactly where you stand.<br \/>\nAs you look over the car or truck, check first to see if it comes with a<br \/>\n proper set of keys.   You may assume it does, but most auctions will tell you<br \/>\n that &#8220;what you see is what you get&#8221;.   I have bought 2 cars without keys &#8211;<br \/>\n both started right up after I had a set made &#8211; but you may not be so lucky.<br \/>\n If in doubt whether it will run or not, you&#8217;re best to cross it off your<br \/>\n list and go on to the next.   If you are a real gambler, and you&#8217;re STILL<br \/>\n interested in it, look at the wholesale of the vehicle, then subtract the<br \/>\n amount of a new motor and transmission (assuming the worst &#8211; that they&#8217;ll<br \/>\n both have to be replaced) and estimate you cost in time and money of finding<br \/>\n someone to make you a new set of keys.<br \/>\nIf the keys are in the vehicle, get in it and start it up.   Listen carefully<br \/>\n for clues of possible problems &#8211; a grinding starter or a weak battery could<br \/>\n indicate that you&#8217;ll need to invest some additional money into the vehicle<br \/>\n after you buy it.   If it fires up. listen for knocking or pinging<br \/>\n immediately after if starts.   Again, any tell-tale noises will mean you&#8217;d<br \/>\n better plan on spending money for repairs if you buy the vehicle.   Watch the<br \/>\n mirrors for blue smoke coming from the exhaust &#8211; a sure sign of an<br \/>\n oil-burner.   That could mean some major engine repairs are needed.<br \/>\nWith the vehicle in neutral, rev the motor, and again listen for strange<br \/>\n noises and watch for smoke.   Check the transmission to be sure it works, and<br \/>\n the clutch if it&#8217;s a standard shift.   BE CAREFUL when putting it in gear,<br \/>\n however!   You may find that when you ease it into Drive that the car leaps<br \/>\n forward&#8230; that&#8217;s a bad time to realize that the brakes don&#8217;t work!<br \/>\n Whenever you are looking or running an auction vehicle, assume the worst.<br \/>\n Test everything you can while sitting there, and above all, use common sense<br \/>\n and caution when trying out the transmission&#8230; after all, there may be<br \/>\n people standing in front or in back of the vehicle, and you DON&#8217;T want to<br \/>\n get anyone hurt!<br \/>\nOnce you find the engine and transmission work to your satisfaction, test the<br \/>\n radio, air conditioning, heater, wipers, power windows, power seats, lights,<br \/>\n turn signals &#8211; try everything, and make notes of those things that don&#8217;t<br \/>\n work or may need repair.<br \/>\nGet out of the car, and sight along the body.   Are there dents that need<br \/>\n repairing?   Has the car or truck been re-painted and\/or fiber-glassed in<br \/>\n spots?  Do all the windows, doors, hood and trunk open, close and fit<br \/>\n properly?<br \/>\nLook under the hood. Does the battery look good? Check the oil.   If it&#8217;s low,<br \/>\n it may mean it burns oil or it has a leak.   Smell the dipstick.   Does the<br \/>\n oil smell &#8220;burned&#8221; or does it smell like gas or antifreeze?   If so, major<br \/>\n engine repairs may be needed.   Look at the oil.   Is it dark and dirty?   Are<br \/>\n there indications of pieces of metal or sludge build up on the dipstick?<br \/>\n More possible engine repairs.   How does the engine compartment look?   If<br \/>\n it&#8217;s covered with sludge or oil, it may mean a bad oil leak somewhere &#8211;<br \/>\n again, major engine repairs may be needed.   Check the antifreeze and<br \/>\n transmission fluid to see if they are full and clean.   Tug on the belts and<br \/>\n hoses to make sure they fit properly and are not loose.   Look for loose<br \/>\n wires.<br \/>\nWhile you&#8217;ve got the hood up, look for a maintenance sticker somewhere<br \/>\n (sometimes on the inside of the driver&#8217;s door, also).   If you find one,<br \/>\n check the date and mileage against the current mileage.   Does the difference<br \/>\n seem right?<br \/>\nNow get underneath the vehicle.   Look at tread wear on the tires.   Uneven<br \/>\n wear may mean alignment or suspension repairs needed.   Are all 4 tires in<br \/>\n good shape?   If not, figure on replacing the bad ones.   Do the springs and<br \/>\n shocks look OK?   Check out the exhaust system for holes, rust or missing<br \/>\n pieces.   Look at the bottom of the engine, transmission and axle housing.   A<br \/>\n thick layer of oil and\/or sludge build up may mean repairs are in order.<br \/>\nIf the auction really sells the vehicles &#8220;as is&#8221;, don&#8217;t be surprised to find<br \/>\n some odd items of interest in the car or truck.   If you find the back seat<br \/>\n full of trash and\/or the ashtrays overflowing, chances are the previous<br \/>\n owner was not what you&#8217;d call &#8220;meticulous&#8221;.   I have found that the more<br \/>\n trash and junk there is in a car, the better the odds are that they really<br \/>\n didn&#8217;t care about it and let important things such as oil and filter changes<br \/>\n slip by!<br \/>\nFinally, look in the trunk.   Is the spare tire good?   If it shows signs of<br \/>\n uneven wear, it may indicate the vehicle has suspension problems.   Is the<br \/>\n jack there, and does it look like it works?   Figure in the price of buying a<br \/>\n new one if not.<br \/>\nNow that you&#8217;ve looked the vehicle over thoroughly, take a few minutes to<br \/>\n check you notes.   Starting with the adjusted book wholesale price (after<br \/>\n adding\/subtracting options, etc.), subtract the value of any repairs or<br \/>\n missing parts you&#8217;ll have to put into the vehicle.   Don&#8217;t be shy on your<br \/>\n cost estimates.   If you see it needs a new battery, and think a new battery<br \/>\n will cost you $50-$80, assume the highest and take $80 off the wholesale.<br \/>\n Better yet, take off $100 because it&#8217;s going to take you time and effort to<br \/>\n go and purchase that battery.   Use the same logic for all other repair and<br \/>\n parts estimates.   When in doubt, estimate any repairs and\/or parts HIGH!<br \/>\nAfter subtracting all your estimated repairs and parts costs, you&#8217;ve got a<br \/>\n good estimate of what this vehicle is worth to you.   Cross off the wholesale<br \/>\n price on you list, and write this new amount down.   This is the MAXIMUM<br \/>\n PRICE you should expect to pay for this vehicle.   At this point, if you are<br \/>\n STILL interested in the vehicle, and willing to do all the work that&#8217;s<br \/>\n needed on it, leave it on your list.   If not, or if you have any doubts at<br \/>\n all, CROSS IT OFF YOUR LIST and forget about it!   Go on to the next one.<br \/>\nNow you&#8217;ve got your updated list, along with revised wholesale estimates, and<br \/>\n it&#8217;s time to start the auction.   If the auctioneer is planning on selling<br \/>\n the vehicles in a certain order, be sure you know where and when &#8220;your&#8221;<br \/>\n vehicles will come up.   That way, you&#8217;ll know if the one you really prefer<br \/>\n will be sold before or after another one that you&#8217;re considering.   This<br \/>\n helps get your mind set to the order in which your list will go.<br \/>\nTry not to show TOO much attention to one particular vehicle, and keep your<br \/>\n thoughts to yourself!   &#8220;Hugging&#8221; a car or stating &#8220;THIS is the one!&#8221; will<br \/>\n indicate to others that they&#8217;ll have to out-bid you.   Don&#8217;t give them<br \/>\n anything that will help them decide on raising THEIR &#8220;maximum price&#8221;.<br \/>\nIf you&#8217;re fortunate enough to have the very first vehicle to be auctioned on<br \/>\n your list, be ready!   Virtually without exception, I have found the first<br \/>\n vehicle to be auctioned off goes low, as people are hesitant to jump in on<br \/>\n the very first one.<br \/>\nWhen it comes time to bid, don&#8217;t let the auctioneer or anyone else intimidate<br \/>\n you.   Set a plan of action, then stick to it.   Your plan should include<br \/>\n starting out as low as possible, and working your way in the SMALLEST<br \/>\n increments possible towards your MAXIMUM PRICE.   If the auctioneer says<br \/>\n &#8220;Let&#8217;s start the bidding at $1,000&#8221;, DON&#8217;T jump in with a &#8220;YES&#8221;.   Start at<br \/>\n $100.   Too many times I&#8217;ve seen that happen where someone was anxious to buy<br \/>\n a car worth $3,000, and when the auctioneer opened the bidding at $2,000<br \/>\n they said &#8220;Yes&#8221; &#8211; and got the car on one bid because no one else was<br \/>\n interested in it.   Had they started lower, they could have saved some money.<br \/>\nAs the bidding progresses, there are two basic styles of bidding to use.   The<br \/>\n first is the &#8220;psych-them-out&#8221; approach.   An experienced bidder will let<br \/>\n others start the bidding out, and then as the bidding slows down and it gets<br \/>\n down to two people, he&#8217;ll jump in at the last minute and hope that the<br \/>\n element of surprise catches them both off guard.   I have used this approach<br \/>\n successfully, but it does take some experience to know when to hold back and<br \/>\n when to jump in.<br \/>\nThe second style of bidding is &#8220;I-want-it-no-matter-what&#8221; approach.   This<br \/>\n type of bidder will jump right in at the start and run the bidding up so<br \/>\n quickly that others will realize they have no chance of getting the vehicle<br \/>\n and drop out.   Most first time bidders use this approach.   The only problem<br \/>\n with this style is that you may find yourself over-bidding on the vehicle<br \/>\n because you get caught up in the bidding and forget your &#8220;maximum price&#8221;.<br \/>\nThere are many variations on these two basic styles of bidding, too.   You can<br \/>\n take the second approach, starting early in the bidding and working your way<br \/>\n up quickly, and then drop out at a predetermined amount.   Then, when<br \/>\n everyone thinks you&#8217;re out of it, you pick up on the first approach and jump<br \/>\n back in at the end.   There&#8217;s also the style of waiting until the auctioneer<br \/>\n tries to close the bidding with something like &#8220;Going once&#8230; going<br \/>\n twice&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; where you can jump in with $25 more just before the sale closes.<br \/>\n   This takes some experience.   The one thing this style usually does is upset<br \/>\n the other bidder and sometimes even the auctioneer, but you&#8217;re not there to<br \/>\n please anyone but yourself!<br \/>\nAgain, don&#8217;t be intimidated by anything or anyone.   Stay as calm as possible<br \/>\n and keep a rational point of view throughout your bidding.<br \/>\nAs I said earlier, I have been attending auctions for over 2 decades.<br \/>\n Between myself, my father and my brothers, we have purchased over 22 cars<br \/>\n and trucks.   Are there &#8220;bargains&#8221; out there? You betcha!   All you have to do<br \/>\n is find them!   At a recent local bank auction, here are some examples of<br \/>\n what I saw:<br \/>\n                                               &#8220;Book Value&#8221;          Sold<br \/>\n  Vehicle:                         Mileage:    Wholesale\/Retail      For:<br \/>\n 87 Plymouth Horizon               30,264      $4400\/$5100          $4150<br \/>\n 85 Izuzu Trooper 4WD              46,499      $5500\/$6300          $3800<br \/>\n 84 Pontiac Sunbird                55,737      $3100\/$3500          $1850<br \/>\n 83 Olds Ciera &#8211; &#8220;loaded&#8221;          77,377      $3350\/$3925          $1900<br \/>\n 87 Nissan King Cab Pickup         11,389      $5825\/$6625          $4650<br \/>\n 87 Ford Escort GT                 23,258      $5600\/$6300          $5100<br \/>\n 86 Jeep Comanche Pickup           69,358      $4775\/$5225          $4075<br \/>\n 86 Mazda 626 LX &#8211; minor damage    29,271      $6400\/$7600          $4000<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there WERE some that went for over book value, but in most cases<br \/>\n they were individuals who were &#8220;bent&#8221; on getting the vehicle no matter what.<br \/>\n   There was even an Audi 5000 CS 4 door sedan &#8211; with every available option<br \/>\n except turbo and sunroof &#8211; that sold for $11,850, while most everyone stood<br \/>\n around and shook their heads in amazement!<br \/>\nAll in all, with a little common sense and a knowledge of what to look for,<br \/>\n you can find that &#8220;bargain&#8221; at your local repossessed auction.<\/p>\n<div class='watch-action'><div class='watch-position align-right'><div class='action-like'><a class='lbg-style1 like-14054 jlk' href='javascript:void(0)' data-task='like' data-post_id='14054' data-nonce='65e0e39b87' rel='nofollow'><img class='wti-pixel' src='https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-content\/plugins\/wti-like-post\/images\/pixel.gif' title='Like' \/><span class='lc-14054 lc'>0<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div> <div class='status-14054 status align-right'><\/div><\/div><div class='wti-clear'><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BUYING A CAR OR TRUCK THROUGH REPOSSESSION AUCTIONS By Paul Dewey So you are looking for a&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[27],"class_list":["post-14054","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-othernonsense","tag-english","wpcat-7-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14054","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14054"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14054\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14055,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14054\/revisions\/14055"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14054"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14054"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14054"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}