{"id":13798,"date":"2023-03-21T02:26:58","date_gmt":"2023-03-21T01:26:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/a-large-selection-choice-list-of-must-see-paris-things\/"},"modified":"2023-03-21T02:26:58","modified_gmt":"2023-03-21T01:26:58","slug":"a-large-selection-choice-list-of-must-see-paris-things","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/a-large-selection-choice-list-of-must-see-paris-things\/","title":{"rendered":"A Large Selection\/Choice List Of Must-See Paris Things"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>::Title:\tParis compilation<br \/>\n::Compiled by:\tMark Nowak<br \/>\n::Filename:\teurope\/fr.paris-misc<br \/>\n::Date:\t\t1993 January<br \/>\n::Type:\t\tCompilation<br \/>\n::Note:\t\tVolunteer needed to edit\/organize this file!<br \/>\n::<br \/>\nThis and other rec.travel guides are available by anonymous ftp from<br \/>\nccu.umanitoba.ca in the directory \/pub\/rec-travel.<\/p>\n<p>For information about the rec.travel archive project, please contact<br \/>\nBrian Lucas .<\/p>\n<p>Please do not send me additions to this file.  I do not have time to<br \/>\nkeep it up to date.  Volunteers are needed to maintain\/organize this<br \/>\nand other files in the rec.travel archive.<\/p>\n<p>========================================================================<\/p>\n<p>From markn@comm.mot.com Wed Jan 13 10:34:32 1993<br \/>\nReturn-Path:<br \/>\nReceived: from motgate.mot.com by ccu.UManitoba.CA<br \/>\n\t(4.1\/25-eef) id AA04933; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:33:44 CST<br \/>\nReceived: from pobox.mot.com ([129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c\/IDA-1.4.4\/MOT-2.6 for )<br \/>\n          id AA25059; Wed, 13 Jan 1993 10:33:13 -0600<br \/>\nReceived: from comm.mot.com  ([145.1.3.2]) by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.65c\/IDA-1.4.4\/MOT-2.6 for )<br \/>\n          id AA00592; Wed, 13 Jan 1993 10:33:10 -0600<br \/>\nReceived: from ssd.comm.mot.com (ssd-ether1.comm.mot.com) by comm.mot.com  (4.1\/SMI-4.0)<br \/>\n\tid AA13586; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:36:16 CST<br \/>\nReceived: from crater.ssd by ssd.comm.mot.com (4.1\/SMI-4.0)<br \/>\n\tid AA21836; Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:37:11 CST<br \/>\nDate: Wed, 13 Jan 93 10:37:11 CST<br \/>\nFrom: markn@comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak)<br \/>\nMessage-Id:<br \/>\nTo: lucas@ccu.UManitoba.CA<br \/>\nStatus: OR<\/p>\n<p>From: llw@med.unc.edu (Laurie Weakley)<br \/>\nSubject: SUMMARY Paris Favorites (Long)<br \/>\nDate: 15 Apr 92 20:32:03 GMT<br \/>\nOrganization: UNC-CH School of Medicine<\/p>\n<p>Hello,<\/p>\n<p>As promised, here&#8217;s the summary to the responses<br \/>\nfor my post about Paris Favorites.  Thanks very much!<\/p>\n<p>Original Post:<\/p>\n<p>&gt;&gt;Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 17:49<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;Hello,<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;I&#8217;ll be in Paris for 10 days in September.<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;I&#8217;m interested in your favorite Parisian experiences:<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;hotels, restaurants, sights, whatever.<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;What did you really enjoy about Paris?<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;Any restaurants you&#8217;d gladly return to?  Any sights<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;you&#8217;d not miss for anything?<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;I promise to post a summary!  I posted a similar<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;request for a trip last year, and the response was a big help.<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;Thank you,<br \/>\n&gt;&gt;LLW<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From @vm.gmd.de:RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET Wed Apr  8 02:52:54 1992<\/p>\n<p>Go to the metro station &#8220;Denfert-Rocherau&#8221; (not sure about the spelling<br \/>\nso check it &#8211; but it&#8217;s on the southern side of Paris.) Follow the sign<br \/>\nto the catacombs. Pay for a ticket, go down the stairs, and be prepared<br \/>\nfor a *strange* experience. (Also lots of walking, and it can be a bit<br \/>\nmuddy in places&#8230;).<\/p>\n<p>Go on a river boat &#8211; surprisingly cheap for an hour&#8217;s trip. But watch for<br \/>\nthe<br \/>\nlittle boys who stand on the bridges over the Seine and spit on you ! Boats<br \/>\nleave from near the Eiffel tower.<\/p>\n<p>Go up the Montparnasse &#8216;skyscraper&#8217; and have a coffee at the top. Don&#8217;t pay<br \/>\nright to  the open air viewing gallary, go to the floor below where the<br \/>\ncafe<br \/>\nis<br \/>\nand sneak up to the top when the watchman&#8217;s not looking !  Much cheaper&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From dlf@rti.rti.org Wed Apr  8 09:28:24 1992<\/p>\n<p>In article  you write:<br \/>\n&gt;From LLW.HSL@mhs.unc.edu Mon Apr  6 17:58:44 1992<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;I&#8217;m interested in your favorite Parisian experiences:<br \/>\n&gt;hotels, restaurants, sights, whatever.<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;What did you really enjoy about Paris?  <\/p>\n<p>Paris is my favorite place. We lived there in the early 70&#8217;s and I<br \/>\nhave been back several times. My favorite thing is to just walk<br \/>\naround the streets. The parks, the museums, even the department<br \/>\nstores are all very interesting. Food is very expensive, but there<br \/>\nare lots of small cafes (especially on the left bank) where you can<br \/>\nget a reasonable meal &#8211; and you can buy bread, cheese, and sausage<br \/>\nand have a picnic for lunch. The best place I ever ate was at Tour<br \/>\nd&#8217;Argent &#8211; but we had to make a reservation from here (I had a<br \/>\ntravel agent in Durham do it &#8211; they found someone who could speak<br \/>\nFrench). <\/p>\n<p>There are also plenty of day-long excursions outside france &#8211;<br \/>\nreachable by train &#8211; mostly to castles. The countryside is<br \/>\nbeautiful.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll be happy to answer any specific questions you might have.<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From btr!btr.com!jbauman@fernwood.mpk.ca.us Wed Apr  8 10:38:41 1992<br \/>\nDon&#8217;t miss the Bateaux Mouches (the name for the Seine boat excursions).<br \/>\nTake it at night &#8212; or dusk).<\/p>\n<p>The Paris catacombs are something else &#8212; skip the sewer trip for this one.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a little known museum at Les Invalides.  It contains scale models<br \/>\nof a hundred or so French cities made about 200 years ago.  The French<br \/>\narmy used them for strategic planning.<\/p>\n<p>Have fun!<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From @aifh.edinburgh.ac.uk:kk@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk Wed Apr  8 10:40:12 1992<\/p>\n<p>In article  you write:<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\n&gt;What did you really enjoy about Paris?<br \/>\n&gt;Any restaurants you&#8217;d gladly return to?  Any sights<br \/>\n&gt;you&#8217;d not miss for anything?<\/p>\n<p>The Picasso museum.<br \/>\nA trip to St Germain en Laye on the train with a picnic.<br \/>\nFresh baguette.<br \/>\nAimless wandering.<\/p>\n<p>kathleen<br \/>\n&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br \/>\nKathleen King (kk@uk.ac.ed.aisb)<br \/>\nDept of AI, University of Edinburgh,<br \/>\n80 South Bridge, Edinburgh EH1 1HN.<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From price@ab00.larc.nasa.gov Wed Apr  8 10:58:49 1992<\/p>\n<p>In article  you write:<br \/>\n|&gt; From LLW.HSL@mhs.unc.edu Mon Apr  6 17:58:44 1992<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; Hello,<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; I&#8217;ll be in Paris for 10 days in September.<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; I&#8217;m interested in your favorite Parisian experiences:<br \/>\n|&gt; hotels, restaurants, sights, whatever.<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; What did you really enjoy about Paris?<br \/>\n|&gt; Any restaurants you&#8217;d gladly return to?  Any sights<br \/>\n|&gt; you&#8217;d not miss for anything?<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; I promise to post a summary!  I posted a similar<br \/>\n|&gt; request for a trip last year, and the response was a big help.<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; Thank you,<br \/>\n|&gt;<br \/>\n|&gt; LLW<br \/>\n|&gt; llw@med.unc.edu<br \/>\n|&gt; UNC-Chapel Hill<\/p>\n<p>Laurie &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>We spent 3 days there (before a trip through the wine country) back in June<br \/>\nof &#8217;85 and left totally frustrated because of all we missed.  We therefore<br \/>\nreturned to Paris for 10 days in November of the same year.  That was much<br \/>\nbetter!<\/p>\n<p>A few reccomendations:<\/p>\n<p>Of course you will want to spend time in the Lourve and other museums.  If<br \/>\nthe<\/p>\n<p>weather happens to be good at first, use that time to visit sights that are<br \/>\ndependant on good weather and save the museums for either bad weather days<br \/>\nor nearer the end of your stay if you are lucky enough to only have good<br \/>\nweather.  I had a hard time convincing my wife that we really would get to<br \/>\nthe Lourve, but it turned out to be good that we did wait.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s expensive, but a dinner at Restaurant Jules Verne, halfway up the<br \/>\nEiffle Tower, was an unforgetable experience.  The carpet, walls, ceiling,<br \/>\nall furniture, wine glass stems, place plates, bud vases, and single<br \/>\nrosebuds<br \/>\non each table are ALL BLACK.  There is a black long-arm-desk-type lamp<br \/>\nshining<br \/>\ndown on each table, which had a very pale grey tablecloth.  No other lights<br \/>\nwere<br \/>\nin the room, and, of course, the outside walls were all glass.  All you<br \/>\ncould<br \/>\nsee was the food on the table and the lights of Paris all around!  It was<br \/>\nrather dramatic and the food was equally spectacular.  <\/p>\n<p>Other restaurants that we went to that were in the same class (food &amp; $$)<br \/>\nwere<br \/>\nthe Carillion Hotel at Place de la Concorde, La Tour d&#8217;Argent overlooking<br \/>\nNotre Dame, Guy Savoy out past the Arch de Triumph, and one other I can<br \/>\npicture in my mind and know what I ate, but can&#8217;t remember the name.  For<br \/>\nall<br \/>\nof these, we wrote ahead and asked the concierge at our hotel to book<br \/>\nreservations in advance.  I asked her to space the reservations about every<br \/>\nother day during our stay and I didn&#8217;t care which one was on which day.  I<br \/>\nalso said NOT on the first day!  She handled it perfectly.  I highly<br \/>\nreccommend<br \/>\nGault-Millieu as the best guide to the best restaurants in France. <\/p>\n<p>For less-fancy and more affordable meals, Le Polidor, near le Sorbonne, is<br \/>\na<br \/>\nhistoric, neighborhood bistro where the natives eat that was fascinating.<br \/>\nWe<br \/>\ndid not have a bad meal there &#8211; eating at many bistros &#8211; even at the corner<br \/>\ndrugstore near our hotel!<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of hotel, we stayed at the Madison Hotel, directly across the<br \/>\nstreet<br \/>\nfrom St. Germaine des Pres, on Blvd. St.Germaine, on the left bank.  The<br \/>\nlocation was fabulous &#8211; right in the middle of the left bank activity and<br \/>\neasy walking distance from everything!  There was also a metro stop at the<br \/>\nfront door.  Our room (both times &#8211; by request the 2nd time) was 81, which<br \/>\nwas the &#8220;garret&#8221; overlooking the rooftops of Paris!  It was great and cheap<br \/>\nat the time.  They were rehabbing the place during our second visit and<br \/>\nthat<br \/>\nis now complete, so it is more expensive.  However, I read that it is still<br \/>\na good buy.  The dollar is not what it was then, so all prices are much<br \/>\nhigher.<\/p>\n<p>The obvious sights, I will assume you know about.  Others we enjoyed were<br \/>\nthe chapel that is inside the gates at the Police station near the city<br \/>\nhall.<br \/>\nGo only on a bright sunny morning.  The windows are spectacular!  The<br \/>\nRhodin<br \/>\n(sp?) Museum was good.  The Orangerie near the Lourve &#8211; Monet&#8217;s<br \/>\nWaterlillies<br \/>\nin two round rooms in the basement level are fantastic.  Be sure to go to<br \/>\nthe<br \/>\ntop of Notre Dame if you can take a long spiral staircase.  <\/p>\n<p>Take comfortable walking shoes, you can walk just about everywhere.  For<br \/>\nlonger trips, get a week (or 10 day?) &#8220;orange card&#8221; pass for the metro.  It<br \/>\nis fast, cheap, and easy.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m envious.  Paris is my favorite city!  Have a great trip!<\/p>\n<p>Mac Price<br \/>\nprice@abi0.larc.nasa.gov<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From matz@drutx.att.com Wed Apr  8 11:47:28 1992<\/p>\n<p>Laurie,<\/p>\n<p>I just returned from a week in Paris.  I have some favorites &#8211;<br \/>\nThe Rodin Museum &#8211; in the 7th &#8211; near Invalides &#8211; wonderful !!!<\/p>\n<p>Restaurants &#8211; <\/p>\n<p>I can get the exact names and addresses for you if you like &#8211; my documents<br \/>\nare at home &#8211; but:<\/p>\n<p>1)  In the Museum D&#8217;Orsay (modern Art)  &#8211; don&#8217;t miss the restaurant<br \/>\nPalais D&#8217;Orsay on the upper floor &#8211; fantastic Belle Epoque decoration &#8211; I<br \/>\nmean<br \/>\nfantastic !!! They have a lunch buffet deal called the Formula Rapide for<br \/>\n69<br \/>\nfrancs that includes wine and desert a great way to break up the day there.<\/p>\n<p>2) Les Philosophes &#8211; a drop-dead cute little restaurant with excellent food<br \/>\nin the 4th &#8211; a few blocks east of the Pompidou Center\/Les Halles area. I<br \/>\nlove<br \/>\nthis restaurant &#8211; small semi-formal little room with pretty art on the wall<br \/>\nand good mood music, very attentive woman proprietor who speaks fine<br \/>\nEnglish,<br \/>\nand fine, fine, fine food.  We had wonderful spinach\/mushroom\/gruyere<br \/>\nsalads,<br \/>\nfull plates of perfectly cooked beef tenderloin slices with wine sauce,<br \/>\nvegetables, and a half liter of house wine for a total of 163 francs !!!!<\/p>\n<p>3) Cafe Breteuil &#8211; on Place Breteuil in the 7th &#8211; (2 blocks from Metro<br \/>\nDuroc)<br \/>\nWonderful lunch menu &#8211; a beautiful floor-to-ceiling windowed restaurant<br \/>\nlooking out over a beautiful open area in an upper class neighborhood.<br \/>\nThe menu is 165 francs per person &#8211; but includes a full bottle of excellent<br \/>\nBordeaux (worth &gt; 100 francs).  We had the best escargot we&#8217;ve ever been<br \/>\nserved<br \/>\n&#8211; large portion, salads, fine veal main course, fine desert and espresso<br \/>\nfor the menu price &#8211; definitely a splurge lunch at $60 for two &#8211; but I wish<br \/>\nI could eat there every day.<\/p>\n<p>4) Restaurant Thomieux &#8211; on St. Dominique in the 7th &#8211; great and very<br \/>\neconomical<br \/>\n5) Poule au Pot &#8211; also in the 7th &#8211; I think on Universite &#8211; their specialty<br \/>\nis a chicken stew served in a heavy huge copper pot &#8211; the chicken breast<br \/>\ncovers a wonerful piece of pate&#8217; (wow &#8211; tasty !!!) about 200 FF for two<br \/>\ndinners<\/p>\n<p>6) Willi&#8217;s Wine Bar &#8211; in the first near the Louvre\/Palais Royal &#8211; really<br \/>\nneat<br \/>\nAmerican hangout<\/p>\n<p>Gosh &#8211; there are a million places &#8211; I love Paris  !!!!<\/p>\n<p>mail me if you want me to natter on and on.<\/p>\n<p>Dave Matz<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From seb1@druhi.att.com Wed Apr  8 13:41:43 1992<\/p>\n<p>I have only been to France once and I spent 6 days in Paris. I loved<br \/>\nit! It was one of the most wonderful cities I have ever visited. What<br \/>\nI liked best about Paris is walking around it. It&#8217;s not that big so<br \/>\nyou can walk most places. And all the other spots you can get to with<br \/>\nthe metro. Bring good walking shoes and walk, walk, walk.<\/p>\n<p>My favorite museum was the Orsay, but I&#8217;m into Impressionist art. More<br \/>\nmy speed than the Louvre, though the architecture of the Louvre is<br \/>\nvery impressive. I was somewhat overwhelmed by all that old European art.<\/p>\n<p>As far as restaurants, we didn&#8217;t eat in any bad ones. Two that I liked<br \/>\na lot were L&#8217;Epi D&#8217;Or which is near the Palais Royale and the Bourse,<br \/>\nand Juveniles. L&#8217;Epi D&#8217;Or is a bistro sort of place and the food is<br \/>\nwonderful. It was the best meal we had in Paris. The atmosphere captured<br \/>\nParis dining out (not the high-class kind) to a t. Juveniles is a wine<br \/>\nbar and the food there was very good. I had duck on a bed of greens and<br \/>\nit was the most delicious duck I&#8217;ve ever had. After eating in France, I<br \/>\nwas thoroughly convinced that you could not get a bad meal there.<\/p>\n<p>Sharon Badian<br \/>\nseb1@vader.att.com or seb1@druhi.att.com<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From pete@chomsky.sps.mot.com Thu Apr  9 10:45:01 1992<\/p>\n<p>Laurie &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>      By far, my favorite restaurant (in the lower mid price range)<br \/>\nis &#8220;Le Cafe Du Commerce&#8221;. It is located at 51 Rue Du Commerce. It is<br \/>\nvery easy to find, just take the metro line 8 heading for BALLARD and<br \/>\nget off at the COMMERCE stop. You will exit into a park. Just hang a<br \/>\nleft on commerce and walk about 1 1\/2 blocks.<\/p>\n<p>      A great place to just hang out is Luxembourg Park. For a fun<br \/>\nwalk to the park, take the metro line 4 to the CITE stop. This will<br \/>\nput you on the island near Notre-Dame. Then walk up through the<br \/>\nSorbonne (many students and cool shops) and in a few blocks you will<br \/>\nfind yourself at one of the park&#8217;s entrances.<\/p>\n<p>      I love Paris &#8212; and try to spend 5-6 weeks a year there. Have<br \/>\na great trip!<\/p>\n<p>Pete Percosan<br \/>\nMotorola DSP group<br \/>\npete@chomsky.sps.mot.com<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From leafusa!zurich.HQ.Ileaf.COM!fal@uunet.UU.NET Thu Apr  9 13:02:06 1992<\/p>\n<p>I go to Paris a lot and lived there 5 years. I have a file I give]<br \/>\nto friends who are going for the first time, but it is kind of long<br \/>\n(14 pages). It also has a compilation of restaurants and hotels from<br \/>\npeople on rec.travel.<\/p>\n<p>Let me know if you would like me to send you this document.          <\/p>\n<p>&gt;From cag@hpescag.fc.hp.com Thu Apr  9 14:44:04 1992<\/p>\n<p>&gt;What did you really enjoy about Paris?<br \/>\n&gt;Any restaurants you&#8217;d gladly return to?  Any sights<br \/>\n&gt;you&#8217;d not miss for anything?<br \/>\n&gt;<br \/>\nMy wife and I were there last September.  Some of the highlights:<\/p>\n<p>Au Trou Gascon:  A one-star Michelin restaurant.  Fairly cozy with very<br \/>\nnice service, not stuffy.  Great food and a great wine list.  It&#8217;s<br \/>\nexpensive, but not for this class of restaurant in Paris.  This was<br \/>\nmy favorite meal of the vacation.<\/p>\n<p>Au Pied Du Cochon:  A really lively bistro in the 1er arrondissement.<br \/>\nYou&#8217;ll probably stand in line to get in, but our waiter was friendly<br \/>\nand funny and the food was very good.  Try the fruits de mer if you&#8217;re<br \/>\nbrave.<\/p>\n<p>Willi&#8217;s Wine Bar:  Despite the yuppie\/nouveau riche American crowd, this<br \/>\nwas a great place.  The food is good and there are great wine selections<br \/>\nby the glass and bottle.  The staff is pretty down to earth.  Not cheap,<br \/>\nthough.<\/p>\n<p>The view from Sacre Coeur:  Not to mention the climb up to the top<br \/>\nthrough narrow spiral staircases.<\/p>\n<p>The Musee D&#8217;Orsay:  To me it was much more interesting than the Louvre,<br \/>\nmostly because it&#8217;s easier for me to appreciate 19th century art than<br \/>\nearlier painting.  However, the Louvre is certainly worth seeing for the<br \/>\n&#8220;big name&#8221; stuff.<\/p>\n<p>The Hameau at Versailles:  Sort of a monument to how out of touch royalty<br \/>\ncan be.  It&#8217;s really pretty.<\/p>\n<p>We were a bit underwhelmed by the parks in Paris.  They tend to have sand\/<br \/>\ngravel in most of the walking areas, and very little grass in general.  It<br \/>\nended up being fairly dusty and not nearly as pretty as some of the parks<br \/>\nin London.  I should add that we didn&#8217;t go to lots of the more famous parks <\/p>\n<p>like the Bois de Boulogne, Jardins de Luxembourg, etc.  They may be more<br \/>\nimpressive.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d recommend buying Patricia Wells&#8217; Food Lover&#8217;s Guide to Paris.  It&#8217;s<br \/>\na great book and we did well with her recommendations.  Get a good map with<br \/>\na street index, too.  We lived by the Metro &#8211; it&#8217;s easy to use, reasonably<br \/>\nsafe and clean, and you get around very quickly.<\/p>\n<p>Craig<\/p>\n<p>&gt;From tw1u+@andrew.cmu.edu Fri Apr 10 18:26:13 1992<\/p>\n<p>Hi, here&#8217;s what I sent someone else on the net a few weeks ago.  It&#8217;s a<br \/>\nbit long.<\/p>\n<p>I lived in Paris for 2 years, and returned just this late summer.<\/p>\n<p>Do I have favorite places to recommend?&#8211; gobs! a couple good friends<br \/>\njust went there to see a relative in the Olympics&#8211; too bad I didn&#8217;t<br \/>\nsave my notes to them&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I worked there, so the places I went to will be a little more expensive<br \/>\nthan you might be willing to pay as a traveller.  But I think they give<br \/>\na fairly good taste of Parisien eating.  I also have no idea how long<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll be staying, so don&#8217;t be overwhelmed by what follows if you&#8217;re<br \/>\nspending only a weekend there.<\/p>\n<p>For lunch (and dinner)&#8230;<br \/>\nThere&#8217;s Le (or la?) Taverne de L&#8217;arbre sec, in the 1st arrondissement.<br \/>\nYou take the metro to Louvre (and NOT Palais-Royale) on line 1, and<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll be a block away.  It&#8217;s located at the corner of rue st honore and<br \/>\nrue de l&#8217;arbre sec.  It is where Roxane is to have proclaimed her love<br \/>\nfor Christian to Cyrano, in Cyrano de Bergerac.  The owner is Bernard<br \/>\nBlanc&#8211; you can tell him I recommended him,  should you go.  His father<br \/>\nruns the bar, has big big bushy eyebrows.  He used to offer a lunch for<br \/>\n75FF (salad, main course, dessert&#8211; the best was their creme cafe).<br \/>\nThey might be closed on Sun\/Mon.  This is near the Louvre, Les Halles,<br \/>\nright in the center of town. <\/p>\n<p>Nearby, for good views is going to the top floor (11th?) of the dept<br \/>\nstore St Maritaine (the way up to the &#8216;vue panoramique&#8217; is well marked).<br \/>\n In fact there&#8217;s a cafe\/rest on top but bound to be touristy and tres<br \/>\nexpensive.  My other favorite spot around here is Pont Des Arts&#8211; you&#8217;ll<br \/>\nrecgonise it because it&#8217;s a foot bridge that looks like it&#8217;s ready to<br \/>\nfall apart, directly between the Louvre and what was the Ecole de Beaux<br \/>\nArts I think (big dome).  It&#8217;s a neat bridge with artists and a few<br \/>\nmusicians.<\/p>\n<p>Another decent lunch place is calle Aux Gamins de Paris, in the Marais,<br \/>\non rue vieile du temple&#8211; perhaps near where rue de rosiers is&#8211; on the<br \/>\nleft side of vieile du temple if you&#8217;re walking away from the Seine<br \/>\n(North).  This is a nice little wine bar\/resto with a fairly non-tourist<br \/>\ninternational crowd (it&#8217;s where hip Americans and hipper French hang<br \/>\nout).  This whole area is great, esp the architecture and in particular<br \/>\n&#8211;I don&#8217;t know what you call them&#8211; they&#8217;re pieces build on corners,<br \/>\nlike turrets.  The Marais (&#8216;swamp&#8217;) is where the bourgeois used to live<br \/>\n(like Roxane), in &#8216;hotels&#8217;, and now is populated by Jews and fashionable<br \/>\nParisians.  If you read Eco&#8217;s &#8220;Foucault&#8217;s Pendulum,&#8221; the street names<br \/>\nhere refer to the strange orders of knights he talked about in the book.<br \/>\n It&#8217;s hip and alive on Sundays when the rest of Catholic France is<br \/>\nspending it in the countryside or in parks.  Be sure to go to Goldberg&#8217;s<br \/>\nCafe for some Eastern European food.  My favorite was a falafel shop not<br \/>\nfar away&#8211; I don&#8217;t recall the street.  It&#8217;s a small area and i&#8217;d suggest<br \/>\nwalking east through it from Centre Pompidou to PLace de Voges (Victor<br \/>\nHugo&#8217;s house nearby and neat street musicans), and eventually onward to<br \/>\nBastille, another really neat up-and-coming district.  Back at the<br \/>\nCentre Pompidou (be sure to go up for other great views) is La Dame<br \/>\nTartin, if I recall.  A really reasonably priced place that specialises<br \/>\nin open face sandwiches.  It&#8217;s a bit touristy but also appeals to many<br \/>\nlocals, and of all the places I went to I always ran into to people I<br \/>\nknew there.  It&#8217;s right next to the fountain with all the wierd<br \/>\nsculptures in it, not far from some church (St Merri, or something).<\/p>\n<p>Another cheap thrill is of course Sacre Coeur, where you&#8217;ll find other<br \/>\ntourists looking at the view.  We once went to a rest. nearby, called Le<br \/>\nTartempion or something like that&#8211; but that was many years ago and it&#8217;s<br \/>\nprobably gone tourist.  Be sure to walk around the hill behind the<br \/>\nbasilica because there are lots of nice views from there.  In that<br \/>\ngeneral area (the 18th) is a large black African population&#8211; on the<br \/>\nstreet corners you&#8217;ll see great big african women beautifully swathed in<br \/>\ncolorful batiks (sold in nearby stores&#8211; boy I&#8217;m really beginning to<br \/>\nsound like a travel guide) selling fried corn on the cob.  If you wander<br \/>\ninto one of the small unmarked pharmacies specialising in nothing but<br \/>\nAfrican herbal medicines, be sure to try to listen to what their<br \/>\nspeaking.  On the northern edges of this area is the great flea market<br \/>\nwith lots of neat things to see.  Watch out of pickpockets.<\/p>\n<p>For a distant view OF Sacre Coeur, go behind the big clocks (where cafes<br \/>\nare) in Musee d&#8217;orsay.<\/p>\n<p>Another good view is from the top of Notre Dame.  The entrance (have to<br \/>\npay) is on the left side, facing the cathedral.  Note that you can go to<br \/>\nthe very top of one of the towers.  Also (I never made it here) is going<br \/>\nto the top of the dome of the Pantheon, in the 5th.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re looking to spoil yourself I&#8217;ve 3 recommendations for dinner,<br \/>\nin order of price.  One is L&#8217;Enfance de Lard&#8211; maybe 100-150FF\/person,<br \/>\nlocated on rue de guisard.  Hard to find, in the 6th.  Probably the best<br \/>\nway is to get off at metro St sulpice, walk north toward the edge of the<br \/>\nsquare, where the storefront for YSL is.  Walk into one of the small<br \/>\nstreets leading out of the square, with the YSL shopp on your right.<br \/>\nTake the first right, and the rest. will be on your right.  If you like<br \/>\nescargot, they have a very nice escargot en profiterole (or something<br \/>\nlike that)&#8211; escargot in a pastry drenched in (yep!) butter (but this is<br \/>\nkoay as long as you drink red wine).  This place was recommended to me<br \/>\nby a friend who thinks of nothing but food (as most French seem to do).<br \/>\nYou&#8217;ll notice this whole area is very student-ish with lots of nice<br \/>\nboutiques and sometimes touristy.  But on warm summer nights it&#8217;s<br \/>\ndefinitely festive.  <\/p>\n<p>The second restuarant is Chez Julian, in the 10th, at 9 rue Faubourg St<br \/>\nDenis.  Take line 4 and get off at Strasbourg St Denis. Walk west then<br \/>\nnorth to go through the Porte de St denis, and NOT porte de St martin.<br \/>\n(You will exit from the metro south of the portes)  They look like mini<br \/>\nversions of the Arc de Triomphe.  Going through Porte de St Denis you&#8217;ll<br \/>\nbe on rue Faubourg St Denis, and after a bit the rest will be on your<br \/>\nright.  It&#8217;s a neat bustling brightly lit place decorated in the belle<br \/>\nepoque style of art deco.  A friend of mine spotted Madonna here.  After<br \/>\n11pm, they have a special 4 course meal for 90FF.  Waiters are NOT surly<br \/>\nbut efficient.  You usu have to wait.  But there&#8217;s a small bar there and<br \/>\nin the past they&#8217;ve been known to offer free kirs (white wine mixed with<br \/>\na fruity liquer).  In general this is an interesting area with a strong<br \/>\nN. African influence.  It looks a bit seedy, but like most of Paris,<br \/>\nit&#8217;s safer than any American equivalent.<\/p>\n<p>Lastly, my all time favorite is&#8211; I never knew the name&#8211; we called it<br \/>\nchez Patrick, right next to La Taverne de l&#8217;arbre sec.  It&#8217;s on rue de<br \/>\nl&#8217;arbre sec, no. 64 maybe, 2 doors before La Taverne going toward rue st<br \/>\nhonore (you can ask Bernard).  It&#8217;s closed Mon and Sun I think.  This is<br \/>\na tiny place (intime) so you ought to make reservations&#8211; you can do<br \/>\nthat earlier in the day.  Patrick and his water and bartender are all<br \/>\nreally nice.  It&#8217;s expensive&#8211; maybe 250-300FF\/person for a full meal<br \/>\nincluding several bottles of wine.  But it&#8217;s really good and definitely<br \/>\nnot a ripoff.  Tell Patrick that a friend of Jennifer&#8217;s recommended him<br \/>\nto you, if you go.<\/p>\n<p>Note that most places in Paris will have a menu located outside so you<br \/>\ncan check without getting seated first.<\/p>\n<p>A street to visit that has a market everyday is rue de mouffetard (I<br \/>\nunderstand there are youth hostels here too).  Artsy, with bookshops and<br \/>\nlittle papershops, it winds down (south) from metro Cardinal Lemoine to<br \/>\na church, st Mediard where on sunday pm (usu 4pm) they have free<br \/>\nclassical music concerts.   In fact on sundays all over paris there are<br \/>\nfree music concerts in churches and the way to find out about them is to<br \/>\nbuy a Pariscope (3FF) at any kiosk on the Thrus preceding the weekend.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a way to visit the city.  Another fun and cheap thing to do is to<br \/>\ntake the metro line 6, say from metro stops Italie, or Montparnasse,<br \/>\ntoward the eiffel tower.  Because in the portion to the line that<br \/>\napproaches then crosses the Seine the train is elevated and you get a<br \/>\nreally neat view in crossing (you&#8217;ll have to see a map to see what I<br \/>\nmean).<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s always the bateaux mouches for about 50 FF or maybe less you go<br \/>\na on a tour of the river.<\/p>\n<p>Whelp, I just notived your other posts, so it looks like you&#8217;ll be<br \/>\nbackpacking it, ergo perhaps on a limited budget.  So perhaps some of<br \/>\nthese places will be a bit really expensive.  I think you can always try<br \/>\nto look under 25, as most backpackers are.  They don&#8217;t always card.  And<br \/>\nyou cvan act dumb.  On e thing you should bring is any (current or past)<br \/>\nstudnet ID.  That usu wokrs.<\/p>\n<p>About taking a night train from London to Paris, I had a friend who ran<br \/>\ninto trouble because of a strike (welcome to France!&#8211; in fact once I<br \/>\nwas &#8216;stranded&#8217; in Venice with my sister because of a train strike and I<br \/>\nwas supposed to go back to work soon- so we went to Florence- tough<br \/>\nchoice huh?)<\/p>\n<p>Well I hope you have a nice trip.  I hope to get back there someday myself.<\/p>\n<p>Good luck and bon voyage!!<\/p>\n<p>Tse-Sung <\/p>\n<p>&gt;From laural@cbnewsl.att.com Mon Apr 13 11:37:01 1992<\/p>\n<p>In article  you write:<br \/>\n&gt;From LLW.HSL@mhs.unc.edu Mon Apr  6 17:58:44 1992<br \/>\n&gt;I&#8217;m interested in your favorite Parisian experiences:<br \/>\n&gt;hotels, restaurants, sights, whatever.  <\/p>\n<p>Hotels:<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t stay at the Ceramic on Ave. Wagram.  It&#8217;s got a great location,<br \/>\na great price, and the shower was private, hot, and strong, but the<br \/>\nbed was terrible and the street was too noisy to allow good sleeping.<\/p>\n<p>&gt;What did you really enjoy about Paris?  <\/p>\n<p>Cafes.  Cafes.  Cafes.  And the overall romantic atmosphere.  I went<br \/>\nlast August with a friend of mine from London that I&#8217;ve always had a crush<br \/>\non, and the legendary atmosphere of Paris worked its magic . . . <\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;d get up, decide what part of the city we wanted to start sight<br \/>\nseeing in, and take the Metro out there. Then we&#8217;d look for the first<br \/>\nlikely looking cafe for breakfast.  After a very long breakfast of<br \/>\nbread, tea, chocolate, croissant, or whatever, we&#8217;d do our sight seeing,<br \/>\nand then wander into another cafe for beer, wine, whatever.  Just sitting<br \/>\noutside watching the world go by.  Ahhhh.  I&#8217;m going back in 3 weeks,<br \/>\nthis time with a female friend &#8212; so I&#8217;ll get some shopping in!<\/p>\n<p>&gt;Any restaurants you&#8217;d gladly return to?  <\/p>\n<p>Yes.  There is a chain called Hippopotamus, which has good food for good<br \/>\nprices.  The best meal I had was at this place called the Drugstore (well,<br \/>\nwhatever the French word for Drugstore is).  It&#8217;s above a drugstore (a<br \/>\nrather chi chi one a that &#8212; they sold fancy perfumes and cosmetics).  I<br \/>\ncan&#8217;t remember where it is, though.  Somewhere in the Latin Quartier I<br \/>\nthink.<\/p>\n<p>&gt;Any sights<br \/>\n&gt;you&#8217;d not miss for anything?<\/p>\n<p>Before I went everyone said &#8220;don&#8217;t bother with Sacre Coeur&#8221;, but I<br \/>\ndisagree vehemently.  Also, don&#8217;t miss the stained glass in St. Chappelle.<br \/>\nBut here&#8217;s a trick to avoid long lines:  go down to the Concergerie (where<br \/>\nthey imprisoned Marie Antionette before they guillotined her) and buy a<br \/>\ncombined ticket for the Concergerie\/St. Chappelle.  No one goes to the<br \/>\nConcergerie it seems, so you won&#8217;t have to wait to get in.  Then go over<br \/>\nto St. Chappelle and bypass the long ticket line to walk right into the<br \/>\nchapel.<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t make it to the Louvre, but went to the Musee d&#8217;Orsay instead.<br \/>\nIncredibly sculpture on the ground floor.  The Impressionists on the top.<br \/>\nDon&#8217;t miss it.<\/p>\n<p>Laura<\/p>\n<p>\ufffd<\/p>\n<div class='watch-action'><div class='watch-position align-right'><div class='action-like'><a class='lbg-style1 like-13798 jlk' href='javascript:void(0)' data-task='like' data-post_id='13798' data-nonce='65e0e39b87' rel='nofollow'><img class='wti-pixel' src='https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-content\/plugins\/wti-like-post\/images\/pixel.gif' title='Like' \/><span class='lc-13798 lc'>0<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div> <div class='status-13798 status align-right'><\/div><\/div><div class='wti-clear'><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>::Title: Paris compilation ::Compiled by: Mark Nowak ::Filename: europe\/fr.paris-misc ::Date: 1993 January ::Type: Compilation ::Note: Volunteer needed&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[27],"class_list":["post-13798","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-othernonsense","tag-english","wpcat-7-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13798","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13798"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13798\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13799,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13798\/revisions\/13799"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13798"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13798"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.graviton.at\/letterswaplibrary\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13798"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}